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For Science! Ask for volunteers to conduct tulpa-related research, or post and discuss your experiments here. If you are researching a topic not directly related to tulpas, fee free to post in #general-discussion Forum link to the Research Board: https://community.tulpa.info/forum/5-research/
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Albino Elephant 5/14/2018 6:07 AM
That isn't applicable for all data sets.
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Histograms give more info. You can see the skew then.
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Deleted User 5/22/2018 8:57 PM
Is this the right place for metaphysical research as well (edited)
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I guess so
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I would assume so, yes.
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Deleted User 5/22/2018 9:10 PM
if anyone here is familiar with the concept (in an occult sense) of egregores/servitors i had something i wanted to discuss
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V∆L-H∆L8 5/23/2018 2:52 AM
@Deleted User I can try,
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Aww I can't respond to the survey now. I wish I had seen it sooner. I wanted to respond with my ~480 months :) (edited)
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Abvieon {Alex} 5/28/2018 2:36 AM
Head pressure. It's something that a surprisingly large portion of those who create tulpas report, yet nobody is quite sure what causes it and whether or not it is inherently related to tulpamancy. It is most often experienced as an odd sensation that differs from headaches, and many experience it only when creating their tulpa. Because it is such a common experience, I have decided to create a survey that aims to find trends and consistencies in the experience of head pressure. Please do not respond to this survey unless you have taken part in creating a tulpa and have experienced head pressure. https://goo.gl/forms/C6GkXCCd7VA79N7z2
Do not respond to this survey unless you have taken part in creating a tulpa and have experienced what you perceive to be head pressure.
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@Abvieon {Alex} I believe the data would be more valuable if we were also able to get a read on individuals experiencing or not experiencing head pressure who have not attempted to make a tulpa, as well as a cursory description of what head pressure actually is.
3:21 AM
As a "control group" of sorts, to test any differences.
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Responded to survey
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Oh. I was going to take the survey. I did never experience head pressures, but that is not an option. I do think it would be interesting to have that as an option on the survey, to be able to know what percentage of people to do experience this.
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Survey seems to be a bit biased, since it excludes that and people without tulpas
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Well, it really just depends on what information is being desired.
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If it is meant to determine the commonality of head pressure in relation to tulpas as well as whether or not it is related specifically to tulpas or not, it does rather need to test the frequency when those conditions are not met, as a point of comparison.
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Abvieon {Alex} 5/28/2018 6:36 PM
I was not looking for any information on people without tulpas or those who have not had head pressure
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I see. I do think that is shame. Without knowing how many tulpamancers do have headpressures, almost all information about them seems irrelevant, as we cannot say if it is a majority or a minority. Knowing "X amount of headpressures are like Y", does not matter if we cannot say how many have them to start with because it is insignificant now. I do think you should look into that, too.
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Well. I suppose if the goal is learning what types of head pressures people experience rather than the frequency of head pressures and their actual use in terms of tulpas.
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I see. I do think knowing the frequency will help with claims, otherwise it is still up for debate.
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What would be interesting, if we could set it up, is having two groups of potential tulpamancers. One group being told of head pressures like normal and the other group never having it mentioned to them.
7:00 PM
I think then we would discover if head pressures are a sign of progression in creating a tulpa, or if it is people being deluded or not.
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A third group could be one told that there is another sign - such as tingling fingers as I believe Jas has mentioned before.
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Oh, yes. That would be very interesting. I do wish we could set this up.
7:03 PM
Is there any way that we could, though? We could ask new people if they would like to join an experiment related to tulpas and the creation process of them.
7:04 PM
We would have no real way to be sure that they are restricted from certain information, though.
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Analyzed results of the Tulpa-Host Relationship Survey. Some interesting finds here, check them out! I'll be posting full spreadsheet data and interview logs shortly.
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Very nicely written.
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Indeed.
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I've a background in paid copywriting and technical writing, thanks :P
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That's awesome!
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oh yeah that's a thing
11:07 AM
lumi's interview's in there
11:08 AM
interviews are hard tho, easier to just write forum posts
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I'm working on collecting data points for my upcoming essay and it'd be a great help if you'd answer this quick one-question survey. I will share my hypothesis and drafts at a later date. https://goo.gl/forms/rJ95uPdpYQnYYk003
I'm looking for most recommended/most used tulpa guides to follow up with my research. The next question is a shortlist of the guides I've been suggested as a popular ones but I'm sure there are more in the wild. Please pick one from the list above or pick "other" and note wh...
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bduddy #Diana# 6/12/2018 5:42 AM
If you've been around this community for any amount of time you've probably noticed that people use "switching" to mean different things, with different methods, results, and experiences. This has caused much confusion and strife. I want to fix that, so I've created a survey, which you can find below. The goal of this survey is to collect experiences and descriptions so they can hopefully be categorized and separated. It is short but fairly open-ended, so please give as much detail as you can. Use the last question to provide any feedback. Thank you for your time! https://goo.gl/forms/75vy2EqQsPvXxWYS2
This survey is to collect information on what tulpas and hosts really mean when they describe "switching", with the intention that different experiences can be categorized and perhaps named. This will allow better communication and less confusion when discussing this importan...
5:46 AM
Note that responses are welcome whether you can switch or not, although it's preferred if you can.
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If you need a description for this just exit the tab
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4:44 AM
for my pleasure
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Breloomancer 6/15/2018 6:34 AM
Whats up this the puzzles question
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AAAHHHH
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Breloomancer 6/15/2018 6:44 AM
HHHHAAA?
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I suppose we'll find out when he releases the results of the survey
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@Srn347 how do I get the results?
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WHAAT?
6:49 AM
what's the purpose of this survey, anyway?
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wait I think I figured it out
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nice
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if a question is answered and no one observes the results, does the answer even exist?
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yes it does it is simply unobserved
6:50 AM
also I found out how
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nice
6:50 AM
nice
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Deleted User 6/15/2018 3:30 PM
@meowdude "yes it does it is simply unobserved" If something is unobserved, does it exist? Are you familiar with the "Schrödinger's Cat" thought experiment? 😄
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The metaphor of Schrödinger's Cat was never meant to be about a particle existing or not existing. It was pointing out that it is only possible to know where a quantum particle is or where it is going.
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In my opinion, reality and existence are different, but they overlap. Reality is about physical being. Existence is about perception. The answer would be real, but given that nobody is observing or imagining it in any one moment, it would not exist.
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@Deleted User That is a retarded experiment. While the concept may apply to quantum physics and subatomic particles, the cat in the box is either dead or alive, and opening the box doesn't decide it. Opening the box simply reveals the information that was previouly unknown, and thus, perhaps to an external entity appeared as though it could exist in two states due to the lack of information, it really only exists in a single state that is not yet known. If a tree falls and no one hears it does it fall? Yes. Thinking that perception creates reality is an arrogant view point on the person perceiving's parts
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@meowdude Quantum physics does unfortunately have 'possibility states' that don't collapse into a single actual state until observed.
1:13 AM
I don't have enough information to properly describe it, but that is... effectively what it is.
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actually schrodinger's box was made as an illustration of what is wrong with a particular interpretation of QM
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note: observation is not by a person, but any physical interaction
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There are a number out there who attempt to mislead by talking about observation as if the universe responds somehow to conscious observation, this is not the case so far as I am aware.
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it most certainly is not
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however you define "observation" is irrelevant, it doesn't change the fact that at our level of reality, i.e. the molecular and up level, shit is binary. It either is or is not.
1:26 AM
your perceptions, your interactions, any interactions are IRRELEVANT to this fact.
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Does the set of all sets that don't contain themselves contain itself?
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that is a trick question, under the axiom of regularity "the set of all sets" or "the set of all sets that don't contain themselves" (which are equivalent because no set can contain itself) cannot exist
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A set can contain itself.
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paradox, don't think about it too hard
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Quantum mechanics feels like it responds to observation because particles can respond to events that haven't happened yet.
3:07 AM
If I emit an entangled beam of light, send it to another planet, I can create realtime communication by interfering with the second beam of light.
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can't communicate faster than the speed of light no matter what you do
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no consequence of QM ever allows for nonlocal or FTL communication
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me and srn are reading each other's minds tonight, it seems
3:08 AM
But I'm the faster typist
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Strange.
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I am in a HS game right now fwiw
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That's not what quantum mechanics says.
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I'm the less distracted typist
3:09 AM
I'm pretty certain that the speed of light is one of those sticky rules, even if you think you've broken it the laws of the universe will make your life a confusing hell until you admit defeat and realize you haven't broken it
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You're asserting the local hidden variable theory, which has been overturned.
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who's asserting local hidden variables?
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I'm not asserting anything beyond my assumption that the law of the speed of light is sticky and solid
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Breloomancer 6/16/2018 3:11 AM
I'm pretty sure that quantum entanglement is one of those wired quantum physics things that doesn't make any sense
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like, say what you will, I am almost certain you can't violate faster than light movement no matter what tricks you use
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It's not movement.
3:11 AM
It's quantum entanglement.
3:11 AM
Different principle.
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or, once someone does break that law, we will all know about it because it'll be everywhere
3:12 AM
information is movement, so if you communicate faster than light that is breaking lightspeed rules
3:12 AM
fucking gravity even doesn't go faster than light
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Breloomancer 6/16/2018 3:12 AM
Well it's not like it's easy to quantum entanle
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bduddy #Diana# 6/16/2018 3:12 AM
#lounge
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there is no reliable way to send information across entangled ends of the same wave though
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Continue this conversation after you research.
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I think we were asked to take it to lounge (while this is technically research, I think this room is for tulpa-related research specifically)
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welp I got 15 responses so far
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